04
Oct
2006

102583342 f2c81c211f Rotten in Denmark: Credit cards with mandatory PIN

Reader Mike writes in:

I thought I’d share something I encountered on a recent vacation to Denmark. When I tried to use any of my credit or debit cards at stores, I was asked to enter a PIN code. It turns out that in Denmark, they instituted a PIN code to replace signatures, and this is different from an ATM PIN code you would have for a debit or credit card. Some stores were able to bypass the PIN and then print a receipt for a signature – hotels and some restaurants did this – but most other stores – supermarkets, mobile phone stores, gas stations – did not. I had a mobile phone store even call American Express, and eventually told me they could not process a purchase without a PIN code. As a result, we simply used the ATMs to withdraw and pay with cash.

We’ve mentioned this phenomenon before in an earlier post about the frustrations of not having a “ChipKnip” feature when traveling the Netherlands with U.S.-issued credit cards. But the chip-and-PIN requirement wasn’t nearly as widespread in Holland. We got off comparatively easy. It sounds much closer to mandatory in Denmark.

The whole point of a global credit card network like Visa or MasterCard is that you can use your card globally. If you have extra local requirements that take precedence, then Danish Visa cards might as well drop the Visa name. (Heck, call them Carlsberg cards.)

Of course, Danes can bring their cards to the U.S. to swipe and sign, so they enjoy the advantages of a global card network. But shouldn’t the major credit card networks clamp down on this kind of local variation?

Which countries are the biggest offenders? The issue seems isolated to Europe thus far. We count the UK and the Netherlands as moderately problematic. Germany and France are no problem at all. And Denmark is trouble with a capital T.

Where else? Comments are open, e-mail tips encouraged.

Related:
- We prefer Visa cards, just not yours

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10
Jul
2006

46322082 c1fe6a45e1 We prefer Visa cards    just not yoursJames Gilden offers a primer for confused Americans who encounter “chip and PIN” credit card transactions when visiting Europe. Since credit cards not issued locally aren’t able to perform these PIN-based transactions, international travelers are commonly forced to fight for their right to the old-fashioned swipe-and-sign. It’s a must-read for travelers to Europe.

But paying with your non-local credit card is not always as easy as asking the waiter for an old-school swipe of the plastic. I faced this myself, and much less happily than James Gilden, when I was in the Netherlands earlier this year.

In Holland, there are a number of locations where it is ONLY possible to make purchases using chip-and-PIN, but *not* with regular credit cards, even when the list of accepted payment forms includes all the flavors of credit you know and love. Two examples come to mind: Train ticket vending machines accept coins or “Chipknip,” the local flavor of chip-and-PIN in Holland. The Dutch transfer money from one of their accounts onto their card’s chip at “Chipknip” stations, making the cards prepaid debit cards.

With a US-issued credit card, with or without a chip, I couldn’t simply swipe it and go. I even had a US-issued Amex card with chip and a PIN for ATM withdrawals, but that didn’t work either. The only solution was to get in line to buy the tickets — and pay a teller-surcharge to boot.

Far more frustrating was the phenomenon of the fully-automated self-service gas station. While I’m a big fan of pay-at-the-pump in the U.S. and Canada, my cards were useless in the Dutch countryside. Our rental car was getting low, so we pulled into a station, only to be denied access to the pumps with each and every card in our wallets. And,with no attendant, and no option for cash payment, we had to trek onward on fumes, looking for a station that accepted cash or “old-fashioned” credit.

It’s not clear if, say, British chip-and-PIN cards would have worked. All I know is that it was a pain in the butt. I understand the benefits of the PIN — increased security over regular credit card transactions. But making a local proprietary payment system that overrides the global Visa/Mastercard/Amex network is a blow to travelers’ convenience.

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