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		<title>Convert ATA points to Southwest awards</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/04/02/convert-ata-points-to-southwest-awards/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 11:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ashley</dc:creator>
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A common question from readers of this blog is point conversion.  How do you convert points from one airline to another?  ATA and Southwest just made it a little easier.
In most cases, point conversion is a losing proposition, if it&#8217;s possible at all.  (Try moving miles out of your Delta account!  [...]]]></description>
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<p>A common question from readers of this blog is point conversion.  How do you convert points from one airline to another?  ATA and Southwest just made it a little easier.</p>
<p>In most cases, point conversion is a losing proposition, if it&#8217;s possible at all.  (Try moving miles out of your Delta account!  I dare you!)  </p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve posted <a href="http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/08/02/reader-mail-can-i-transfer-points-from-one-airline-to-another/" target="_blank" class="liinternal">before</a>,  you&#8217;ll almost always lose points in a transfer, either through a clearinghouse like <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-1963587-10445701" target="_blank" onmouseover="window.status="https://www.points.com?c=0706-80001-009";return true;" onmouseout="window.status=" ";return true;" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">Points.com</a>, or by moving balances from one account to another to another to another.  (See Webflyer&#8217;s <a href="http://www.webflyer.com/programs/mileage_converter/index.php" target="_blank" class="liexternal">conversion guide</a> to see what sort of hopscotch your points would need to play.)</p>
<p>So having an option for easy transfer is good news for ATA&#8217;s customers.  The airline already works closely with Southwest by codesharing.  Now, ATA customers <a href="http://www.primenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=116446" target="_blank" class="liexternal">can cash in</a> 7,250 Travel Awards Points for 16 Southwest Rapid Rewards credits, which equates to one Southwest Airlines roundtrip.  No partial conversions.</p>
<p>But is it a good deal?  A roundtrip on ATA <a href="http://www.ata.com/awards/details/index.html#redeeming" target="_blank" class="liexternal">costs</a> only 6,000 points.  </p>
<p>In contrast, Southwest Rapid Rewards customers have been able to cash in their points on ATA for some time, at the <em>same rate</em> (16 credits) as redeeming points for an all-Southwest trip.  (Flights to Hawaii cost double.)  </p>
<p>So ATA customers are being charged a 20.83% premium.  For that premium, they&#8217;re freeing their points from capacity controls &#8212; the &#8220;limited seats available&#8221; jargon which most airlines use for their frequent flyer programs, but which Southwest eschews.  For some folks, that premium may still be worth paying.</p>
<p>Related:<br />
- <a href="http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/08/02/reader-mail-can-i-transfer-points-from-one-airline-to-another/" class="liinternal">Reader mail: Can I transfer points from one airline to another?</a></p>
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		<title>Exact change is no longer appreciated</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/02/03/exact-change-is-no-longer-appreciated/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ashley</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buying anything on board domestic U.S. flights tends to involve an announcement of the mantra that flight attendants would appreciate exact change.  With a few important exceptions, most American carriers stubbornly refuse to accept credit cards in flight.
Now, those exceptions that DO accept credit cards are increasingly going the other direction: Credit only, no [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img id="image739" align="right" src="http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/money-burning.jpg" alt="money burning Exact change is no longer appreciated"  title="Exact change is no longer appreciated" />Buying anything on board domestic U.S. flights tends to involve an announcement of the mantra that flight attendants would appreciate exact change.  With a few important exceptions, most American carriers stubbornly refuse to accept credit cards in flight.</p>
<p>Now, those exceptions that DO accept credit cards are increasingly going the other direction: Credit only, no cash.</p>
<p>ATA <a href="http://www.ata.com/traveler_resources/inflight_services/meals.html" target="_blank" class="liexternal">switched</a> to all-credit for onboard purchases last year, and now Hawaiian Airlines is <a href="http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2007/01/15/daily57.html?from_rss=1" target="_blank" class="liexternal">following suit</a>.  </p>
<p>American Airlines appears to be the <a href="http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?p=/utility/0501_onboardSalesRecorder.jsp" target="_blank" class="liexternal">most flexible</a>: accepting both cash and credit at this point. </p>
<p>I prefer having the <em>choice</em> of cash and credit, but honestly, I&#8217;ll take credit over cash any day, if only for the receipt (and the miles&#8230;)</p>
<p>Related:<br />
- <a href="http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/05/04/american-airlines-now-accepts-credit-cards-onboard/" class="liinternal">American Airlines now accepts credit cards onboard</a></p>
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		<title>American Airlines now accepts credit cards onboard</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 09:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ashley</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the airlines are going to charge for meals, drinks, headphones, and what-not, then it&#8217;s high time they made it easier to pay for the stuff, rather than having the flight attendants state that &#8220;exact change is appreciated.&#8221;  Finally, in a country where everyone seems to use credit cards for everything, onboard use of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/759/2251/1600/aa_amex_gizmo.jpg" target="_blank"><img align="right" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/759/2251/200/aa_amex_gizmo.jpg" border="0" alt="aa amex gizmo American Airlines now accepts credit cards onboard"  title="American Airlines now accepts credit cards onboard" /></a>If the airlines are going to charge for meals, drinks, headphones, and what-not, then it&#8217;s high time they made it easier to pay for the stuff, rather than having the flight attendants state that &#8220;exact change is appreciated.&#8221;  Finally, in a country where everyone seems to use credit cards for everything, onboard use of credit cards is finally hitting the airline mainstream.  American Airlines <a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/3839214.html" target="_blank" class="liexternal">began accepting</a> plastic on board many of its planes this week, with a promise to accept cards on all flights by June.</p>
<p>While credit cards have been accepted on international flights for some time (for duty free purchases), domestic U.S. flights have been oddly credit-card-free.  </p>
<p>American Express Co. will provide the airline with portable electronic terminals.  We&#8217;ve seen similar machines before &#8212; if memory serves correctly, United had them briefly a few years ago, but they were unreliable and were pulled after a few weeks.  Alternatively, Continental has <a href="http://www.continental.com/travel/airport/eservice/default.asp#currency" target="_blank" class="liexternal">made it possible</a> to buy &#8220;Continental Currency&#8221; using credit or debit cards at the self-check-in kiosks.  These certificates could be exchanged onboard for alcoholic beverages or headsets.  A good start, but still an additional layer of planning for the customer.</p>
<p>Making it easier to buy stuff onboard is in the interest of both the airlines and the flying public.  For business travelers on an expense account, having a receipt or charging it to the company card reduces hassle tremendously.  </p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;d rather not have to pay for every little thing in the first place, but if I am shelling out the cash, I&#8217;d like the option of using my card.  Which earns me more frequent flyer miles, after all&#8230;</p>
<p>(Update: ATA has also begun accepting credit cards in flight, but goes a step further: <a href="http://www.ata.com/traveler_resources/inflight_services/meals.html" target="_blank" class="liexternal">not accepting cash</a>. Via <a href="http://blogs.usatoday.com/sky/2006/05/credit_cards_no.html" target="_blank" class="liexternal">USAT</a>.)</p>
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