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	<title>Comments on: American efforts to tick off international travelers continue apace</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/09/28/american-efforts-to-tick-off-international-travelers-continue-apace/#comment-24718</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver, awesome.  You should alert the government of Kiribati of the incursion on their territory.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver, awesome.  You should alert the government of Kiribati of the incursion on their territory.  <img src='http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: S A</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/09/28/american-efforts-to-tick-off-international-travelers-continue-apace/#comment-24709</link>
		<dc:creator>S A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 88-year old Italian grandmother will love filling out forms online...  I hope that there&#039;s a paper version that the older generation can fill out.

Simon makes a good point that the form captures people who lie by omitting information about their lives.  But that undercuts the need for people to fill the form out so far in advance.

If we must answer these kinds of questions in advance, can&#039;t we just answer them at the airport, at check-in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 88-year old Italian grandmother will love filling out forms online&#8230;  I hope that there&#8217;s a paper version that the older generation can fill out.</p>
<p>Simon makes a good point that the form captures people who lie by omitting information about their lives.  But that undercuts the need for people to fill the form out so far in advance.</p>
<p>If we must answer these kinds of questions in advance, can&#8217;t we just answer them at the airport, at check-in?</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I hate having to fill in those forms (and some of the questions are indeed stupid) I think the original article is a little overblown as the ESTA asks the same questions as the I-94W so it isn&#039;t a &#039;detailed online questionnaire about their health and criminal history&#039;. 

My concern is not filling in the form (online or otherwise) but what the USA does with the data - something I suspect will be quietly glossed over during discussions.

BTW the most hilarious thing about the I-94W is if you tick &#039;yes&#039; to any of those criminal questions, it tells you to contact a US embassy before you fly - even though you don&#039;t get the form until you&#039;re already on the plane and in the air!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I hate having to fill in those forms (and some of the questions are indeed stupid) I think the original article is a little overblown as the ESTA asks the same questions as the I-94W so it isn&#8217;t a &#8216;detailed online questionnaire about their health and criminal history&#8217;. </p>
<p>My concern is not filling in the form (online or otherwise) but what the USA does with the data &#8211; something I suspect will be quietly glossed over during discussions.</p>
<p>BTW the most hilarious thing about the I-94W is if you tick &#8216;yes&#8217; to any of those criminal questions, it tells you to contact a US embassy before you fly &#8211; even though you don&#8217;t get the form until you&#8217;re already on the plane and in the air!</p>
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		<title>By: simon hb</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon hb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as someone who has filled out that form quite a few times now, I&#039;ve often had a chuckle at the idea of a spy getting to the &quot;are you involved in espionage&quot; question and going &quot;damn! my elaborate cover story blown&quot;...

SRS almost gets the point - obviously, if you&#039;ve conducted an act of genocide the thought of committing a felony by lying about it on a form isn&#039;t going to phaze you, but that&#039;s not quite what the forms are for.

The US government doesn&#039;t expect people to incriminate on the form; it bets they&#039;ll incriminate themselves by not doing so. If, then, they found a Nazi who had come in but lied on the visa waiver, it gives them the right to kick them out the country immediately as the visa is invalidated. It&#039;s a get-out-while-keeping-US-jails-free card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as someone who has filled out that form quite a few times now, I&#8217;ve often had a chuckle at the idea of a spy getting to the &#8220;are you involved in espionage&#8221; question and going &#8220;damn! my elaborate cover story blown&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>SRS almost gets the point &#8211; obviously, if you&#8217;ve conducted an act of genocide the thought of committing a felony by lying about it on a form isn&#8217;t going to phaze you, but that&#8217;s not quite what the forms are for.</p>
<p>The US government doesn&#8217;t expect people to incriminate on the form; it bets they&#8217;ll incriminate themselves by not doing so. If, then, they found a Nazi who had come in but lied on the visa waiver, it gives them the right to kick them out the country immediately as the visa is invalidated. It&#8217;s a get-out-while-keeping-US-jails-free card.</p>
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		<title>By: SRS</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/09/28/american-efforts-to-tick-off-international-travelers-continue-apace/#comment-24700</link>
		<dc:creator>SRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are standard questions on the US visa application, as on the visa application forms of several other countries

These are all criteria for denying a visa and/or denying entry to the United States

So, the USA (or other countries) can legitimately exclude drug dealers, ex nazis (if any are still alive and mobile instead of in old age homes), politicians accused of genocide etc.  Oh, its a felony to give false answers on that form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are standard questions on the US visa application, as on the visa application forms of several other countries</p>
<p>These are all criteria for denying a visa and/or denying entry to the United States</p>
<p>So, the USA (or other countries) can legitimately exclude drug dealers, ex nazis (if any are still alive and mobile instead of in old age homes), politicians accused of genocide etc.  Oh, its a felony to give false answers on that form.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  One of the possible states you can pick for the address you&#039;re staying at is &quot;Canton and Enderbury Islands&quot;.

It might come as a complete surprise to the inhabitants of those islands that they are, again, part of the USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_and_Enderbury_Islands</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  One of the possible states you can pick for the address you&#8217;re staying at is &#8220;Canton and Enderbury Islands&#8221;.</p>
<p>It might come as a complete surprise to the inhabitants of those islands that they are, again, part of the USA.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_and_Enderbury_Islands" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liwikipedia">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_and_Enderbury_Islands</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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