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	<title>Comments on: Money talks, B.S. flies</title>
	<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/</link>
	<description>Living the first class life -- at coach prices</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Consumer victory: Spirit reverses its &#8220;web convenience fee&#8221; &#187; Upgrade: Travel Better</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22544</link>
		<author>Consumer victory: Spirit reverses its &#8220;web convenience fee&#8221; &#187; Upgrade: Travel Better</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22544</guid>
		<description>[...] been taking a number of hits lately, but one of the most egregious was Spirit&#8217;s recent &#8220;web convenience fee,&#8221; whereby they charged an extra $10 for booking a roundtrip ticket [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] been taking a number of hits lately, but one of the most egregious was Spirit&#8217;s recent &#8220;web convenience fee,&#8221; whereby they charged an extra $10 for booking a roundtrip ticket [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22520</link>
		<author>Lindsay</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22520</guid>
		<description>Honestly, at this point, anyone who flies Spirit deserves what they get. It's just horrible from beginning to end. The fees are just a clue, people!  Follow your instincts and avoid Spirit at all costs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, at this point, anyone who flies Spirit deserves what they get. It&#8217;s just horrible from beginning to end. The fees are just a clue, people!  Follow your instincts and avoid Spirit at all costs!</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22507</link>
		<author>james</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22507</guid>
		<description>Ugh - why why why why can't these fees just be built INTO the price of the ticket?  I'd rather pay more and not take it "a la carte"  - especially if its something like BUYING the damn ticket where I don't have a choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh - why why why why can&#8217;t these fees just be built INTO the price of the ticket?  I&#8217;d rather pay more and not take it &#8220;a la carte&#8221;  - especially if its something like BUYING the damn ticket where I don&#8217;t have a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22506</link>
		<author>K</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22506</guid>
		<description>"Cash discounts" make sense, as the card companies charge a per-transaction fee, in addition to a percentage of each transaction.

Can't blame them for that one, they're legitimately reducing their costs with that deal.

A "convenience fee" for online transactions isn't reducing costs, however, since it costs the company more to have you call or show up at the counter than it does to sell you a ticket online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cash discounts&#8221; make sense, as the card companies charge a per-transaction fee, in addition to a percentage of each transaction.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t blame them for that one, they&#8217;re legitimately reducing their costs with that deal.</p>
<p>A &#8220;convenience fee&#8221; for online transactions isn&#8217;t reducing costs, however, since it costs the company more to have you call or show up at the counter than it does to sell you a ticket online.</p>
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		<title>By: S A</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22505</link>
		<author>S A</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22505</guid>
		<description>And to commenter Mark, your Consumerist link was broken.  Try this:

http://consumerist.com/5025123/is-this-010-creditdebit-surcharge-on-gasoline-allowed

and linked within that post

http://consumerist.com/5023643/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-your-credit-card

How soon before we start seeing "cash discounts" for plane tickets?  They charge fees in Europe for using the credit card to buy tickets, don't they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to commenter Mark, your Consumerist link was broken.  Try this:</p>
<p><a href="http://consumerist.com/5025123/is-this-010-creditdebit-surcharge-on-gasoline-allowed" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">http://consumerist.com/5025123/is-this-010-creditdebit-surcharge-on-gasoline-allowed</a></p>
<p>and linked within that post</p>
<p><a href="http://consumerist.com/5023643/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-your-credit-card" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">http://consumerist.com/5023643/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-your-credit-card</a></p>
<p>How soon before we start seeing &#8220;cash discounts&#8221; for plane tickets?  They charge fees in Europe for using the credit card to buy tickets, don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: S A</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22504</link>
		<author>S A</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22504</guid>
		<description>How dare they?  Who do they think they are, Ticketmaster?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How dare they?  Who do they think they are, Ticketmaster?  <img src='http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22500</link>
		<author>mark</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22500</guid>
		<description>These people ought to be publicly horsewhipped, if only for crimes against the English language.  "Convenience," my @ss.  Can you imagine the reaction if your local grocery store or gas station tried to tack on a "convenience fee" for every transaction?

(Actually, you don't have to imagine: gas stations have tried this stunt repeatedly over the years whenever gas prices spike.  Consumerist has &lt;a href="http://consumerist.com/tag/gas/?i=5025123&#38;t=is-this-010-creditdebit-surcharge-on-gasoline-allowed" rel="nofollow"&gt;the latest smackdown.&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people ought to be publicly horsewhipped, if only for crimes against the English language.  &#8220;Convenience,&#8221; my @ss.  Can you imagine the reaction if your local grocery store or gas station tried to tack on a &#8220;convenience fee&#8221; for every transaction?</p>
<p>(Actually, you don&#8217;t have to imagine: gas stations have tried this stunt repeatedly over the years whenever gas prices spike.  Consumerist has <a href="http://consumerist.com/tag/gas/?i=5025123&amp;t=is-this-010-creditdebit-surcharge-on-gasoline-allowed" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">the latest smackdown.</a>)</p>
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