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	<title>Comments on: Money talks, B.S. flies</title>
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		<title>By: Upgrades and Downgrades &#8212; Pigeon carriers, Million mile movie, fees, tantrums, and much more &#124; Upgrade: Travel Better</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-27021</link>
		<dc:creator>Upgrades and Downgrades &#8212; Pigeon carriers, Million mile movie, fees, tantrums, and much more &#124; Upgrade: Travel Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] buying tickets on their own website. If this sounds familiar, it&#8217;s because it is: The airline tried this last summer, but retracted it within a few days. In the WSJ, Scott McCartney has this summary: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] buying tickets on their own website. If this sounds familiar, it&#8217;s because it is: The airline tried this last summer, but retracted it within a few days. In the WSJ, Scott McCartney has this summary: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Consumer victory: Spirit reverses its &#8220;web convenience fee&#8221; &#187; Upgrade: Travel Better</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22544</link>
		<dc:creator>Consumer victory: Spirit reverses its &#8220;web convenience fee&#8221; &#187; Upgrade: Travel Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been taking a number of hits lately, but one of the most egregious was Spirit&#8217;s recent &#8220;web convenience fee,&#8221; whereby they charged an extra $10 for booking a roundtrip ticket [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been taking a number of hits lately, but one of the most egregious was Spirit&#8217;s recent &#8220;web convenience fee,&#8221; whereby they charged an extra $10 for booking a roundtrip ticket [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22520</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, at this point, anyone who flies Spirit deserves what they get. It&#039;s just horrible from beginning to end. The fees are just a clue, people!  Follow your instincts and avoid Spirit at all costs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, at this point, anyone who flies Spirit deserves what they get. It&#8217;s just horrible from beginning to end. The fees are just a clue, people!  Follow your instincts and avoid Spirit at all costs!</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22507</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh - why why why why can&#039;t these fees just be built INTO the price of the ticket?  I&#039;d rather pay more and not take it &quot;a la carte&quot;  - especially if its something like BUYING the damn ticket where I don&#039;t have a choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh &#8211; why why why why can&#8217;t these fees just be built INTO the price of the ticket?  I&#8217;d rather pay more and not take it &#8220;a la carte&#8221;  &#8211; especially if its something like BUYING the damn ticket where I don&#8217;t have a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/07/21/money-talks-bs-flies/#comment-22506</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Cash discounts&quot; make sense, as the card companies charge a per-transaction fee, in addition to a percentage of each transaction.

Can&#039;t blame them for that one, they&#039;re legitimately reducing their costs with that deal.

A &quot;convenience fee&quot; for online transactions isn&#039;t reducing costs, however, since it costs the company more to have you call or show up at the counter than it does to sell you a ticket online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cash discounts&#8221; make sense, as the card companies charge a per-transaction fee, in addition to a percentage of each transaction.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t blame them for that one, they&#8217;re legitimately reducing their costs with that deal.</p>
<p>A &#8220;convenience fee&#8221; for online transactions isn&#8217;t reducing costs, however, since it costs the company more to have you call or show up at the counter than it does to sell you a ticket online.</p>
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		<title>By: S A</title>
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		<dc:creator>S A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to commenter Mark, your Consumerist link was broken.  Try this:

http://consumerist.com/5025123/is-this-010-creditdebit-surcharge-on-gasoline-allowed

and linked within that post

http://consumerist.com/5023643/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-your-credit-card

How soon before we start seeing &quot;cash discounts&quot; for plane tickets?  They charge fees in Europe for using the credit card to buy tickets, don&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to commenter Mark, your Consumerist link was broken.  Try this:</p>
<p><a href="http://consumerist.com/5025123/is-this-010-creditdebit-surcharge-on-gasoline-allowed" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">http://consumerist.com/5025123/is-this-010-creditdebit-surcharge-on-gasoline-allowed</a></p>
<p>and linked within that post</p>
<p><a href="http://consumerist.com/5023643/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-your-credit-card" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">http://consumerist.com/5023643/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-your-credit-card</a></p>
<p>How soon before we start seeing &#8220;cash discounts&#8221; for plane tickets?  They charge fees in Europe for using the credit card to buy tickets, don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: S A</title>
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		<dc:creator>S A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How dare they?  Who do they think they are, Ticketmaster?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How dare they?  Who do they think they are, Ticketmaster?  <img src='http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people ought to be publicly horsewhipped, if only for crimes against the English language.  &quot;Convenience,&quot; my @ss.  Can you imagine the reaction if your local grocery store or gas station tried to tack on a &quot;convenience fee&quot; for every transaction?

(Actually, you don&#039;t have to imagine: gas stations have tried this stunt repeatedly over the years whenever gas prices spike.  Consumerist has &lt;a href=&quot;http://consumerist.com/tag/gas/?i=5025123&amp;t=is-this-010-creditdebit-surcharge-on-gasoline-allowed&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the latest smackdown.&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people ought to be publicly horsewhipped, if only for crimes against the English language.  &#8220;Convenience,&#8221; my @ss.  Can you imagine the reaction if your local grocery store or gas station tried to tack on a &#8220;convenience fee&#8221; for every transaction?</p>
<p>(Actually, you don&#8217;t have to imagine: gas stations have tried this stunt repeatedly over the years whenever gas prices spike.  Consumerist has <a href="http://consumerist.com/tag/gas/?i=5025123&amp;t=is-this-010-creditdebit-surcharge-on-gasoline-allowed" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">the latest smackdown.</a>)</p>
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