Comments on: Canada prohibits airlines from charging overweight passengers for an extra seat http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/ Living the first class life -- at coach prices Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:55:54 -0700 hourly 1 By: Upgrades and Downgrades — Obese Canadian passengers, guns & ammo, elite time-savers, and more | Upgrade: Travel Better http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-26522 Upgrades and Downgrades — Obese Canadian passengers, guns & ammo, elite time-savers, and more | Upgrade: Travel Better Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:47:02 +0000 http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-26522 [...] seat. The court reaffirmed the Department of Transport’s “one person, one seat” directive. Air Canada and WestJet, Canada’s top airlines, in turn decided that passengers would need a [...] [...] seat. The court reaffirmed the Department of Transport’s “one person, one seat” directive. Air Canada and WestJet, Canada’s top airlines, in turn decided that passengers would need a [...]

]]> By: John http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-24865 John Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:41:31 +0000 http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-24865 Seriously obese people aren't handicapped. They got that way one bite at a time. I see so many fat people, mostly women, these days with walking canes to help with shot knees. One did not see this 20 years ago when fewer people allowed themselves to get so overweight. I saw a special group of cruise passengers who were "handicapped" riding around on their electric people movers. They weren't handicapped... just too lazy to get up and walk like the rest of us. Make the fatties pay for an extra seat. They already pay 3 times what the rest of us pay to eat anyway. If they don't like it, they can stay home on their couch and become more potato like:) Seriously obese people aren’t handicapped. They got that way one bite at a time. I see so many fat people, mostly women, these days with walking canes to help with shot knees. One did not see this 20 years ago when fewer people allowed themselves to get so overweight. I saw a special group of cruise passengers who were “handicapped” riding around on their electric people movers. They weren’t handicapped… just too lazy to get up and walk like the rest of us. Make the fatties pay for an extra seat. They already pay 3 times what the rest of us pay to eat anyway. If they don’t like it, they can stay home on their couch and become more potato like:)

]]> By: pink http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-22986 pink Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:22:41 +0000 http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-22986 I think that a overweight person should have to pay for an extra seat if they dont want to be stuffed in their seat. How is it fair to everyone else that has to sit next to them when they are taking up all this room. If i want to be more comforable i have to pay extra for first class .. so whyy would it be different for them they want to be comforable they should pay for it to. Most people are just lazy and eat mcdonalds and junk and dont exercise i dont feel sorry for them at all that is their chose to live and be unhealthy so i feeL that they should pay for 2 seats. they may say its like a disability ... but thats honestly the funniest thing ill ever heard just because you choose to eat and your fat are we suppose to feel sorry for you. Airlines will be losing money if they have say even 3 obese people on the plane thats 6 seats thats 3 extra seats they could have someone pay for... everyone has their own option but i dont think its fair that they get special treatment because they are obese. People in wheel chairs or other issues cant change the way they are but obese people can and most choose not to. I think that a overweight person should have to pay for an extra seat if they dont want to be stuffed in their seat. How is it fair to everyone else that has to sit next to them when they are taking up all this room. If i want to be more comforable i have to pay extra for first class .. so whyy would it be different for them they want to be comforable they should pay for it to. Most people are just lazy and eat mcdonalds and junk and dont exercise i dont feel sorry for them at all that is their chose to live and be unhealthy so i feeL that they should pay for 2 seats.
they may say its like a disability … but thats honestly the funniest thing ill ever heard just because you choose to eat and your fat are we suppose to feel sorry for you.
Airlines will be losing money if they have say even 3 obese people on the plane thats 6 seats thats 3 extra seats they could have someone pay for… everyone has their own option but i dont think its fair that they get special treatment because they are obese. People in wheel chairs or other issues cant change the way they are but obese people can and most choose not to.

]]> By: Fat Bob http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-22389 Fat Bob Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:41:52 +0000 http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-22389 It should be determined ahead of time if the person is going to need more seats and they should have to pay an extra fee. Maybe not the cost of an entire seat, but at least enough to offset the incured cost everybody else has to put up for thier obese lifestlye. This isn't about discrimination it is about resources, a 400lb man is going to need more fuel and more space than a 150lb man... why shouldn't they have to pay more? It should be determined ahead of time if the person is going to need more seats and they should have to pay an extra fee. Maybe not the cost of an entire seat, but at least enough to offset the incured cost everybody else has to put up for thier obese lifestlye. This isn’t about discrimination it is about resources, a 400lb man is going to need more fuel and more space than a 150lb man… why shouldn’t they have to pay more?

]]> By: mill http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-22170 mill Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:08:51 +0000 http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-22170 reply to Courtnay: Why should an obese person get to sit in a larger more comfortable seat for the same price that I paid? If it is uncomfortable and embarrassing to fit into a small seat, then buy two seats. I no longer fly coach anywhere, and believe me, I have to sacrifice to afford the higher fare. If I can't afford the first class fare, I don't fly, period. I am sick and tired of being wedged in like a tiny sardine between overweight people that don't care that they are spilling into my seat, sweating on me, and infringing on my personal space. I even had an obese woman argue with me once, because I refused to let her put her carry on bag under my feet on my side, because she had two bags and no space on her side. If you have flown in the last decade then you are aware of the size of the airplane seats, an obese person knows they won't fit in their seat when they book their flight. Stop being in denial and deal with your weight. Isn't it is more embarrassing to sit wedged next to a stranger that is glaring at you the whole trip than it would be to pay for and have two seats to yourself in comfort. reply to Courtnay: Why should an obese person get to sit in a larger more comfortable seat for the same price that I paid? If it is uncomfortable and embarrassing to fit into a small seat, then buy two seats. I no longer fly coach anywhere, and believe me, I have to sacrifice to afford the higher fare. If I can’t afford the first class fare, I don’t fly, period. I am sick and tired of being wedged in like a tiny sardine between overweight people that don’t care that they are spilling into my seat, sweating on me, and infringing on my personal space. I even had an obese woman argue with me once, because I refused to let her put her carry on bag under my feet on my side, because she had two bags and no space on her side. If you have flown in the last decade then you are aware of the size of the airplane seats, an obese person knows they won’t fit in their seat when they book their flight. Stop being in denial and deal with your weight. Isn’t it is more embarrassing to sit wedged next to a stranger that is glaring at you the whole trip than it would be to pay for and have two seats to yourself in comfort.

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]]> By: Courtnay http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-20078 Courtnay Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:42:20 +0000 http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-20078 In the free world people should have the right to travel without being judged, or charged, for how they look, how they move, what they eat, or their lifestyle. It seems easy to point fingers and presume weakness. Fat people suffer from discrimination in the workplace, on the street, in the medical world, and on all types of transportation systems. Just because procrustean airlines have chosen some very restrictive dimensions for seats in order to maximize profit by comfortably accommodating only average-sized and smaller people does not mean the odd fat or disabled person who needs more room is a substantial contributor to so-called lost revenue. Shame on anyone who presumes to judge and demand doctor's notes. If it's so easy to change your body, why don't you just lose a few inches so you can better accommodate those around you? Then go lobby the airlines for a discount due to your svelte figure and see how far you get. And while you're at it, ask for a surcharge for taller people whose knees bump the back of your seat. I have flown for many years and suspect there are on average perhaps one or two obese passengers on any given Canadian flight (if that). Two larger economy seats installed in place of one three seat section would probably allow nearly everyone to be accommodated just fine. It is hideously uncomfortable and embarrassing to try and wedge oneself into a too-small seat. Nobody wants to sit on someone else's seat, so just give everyone a place they fit and viva la difference! In the free world people should have the right to travel without being judged, or charged, for how they look, how they move, what they eat, or their lifestyle. It seems easy to point fingers and presume weakness. Fat people suffer from discrimination in the workplace, on the street, in the medical world, and on all types of transportation systems. Just because procrustean airlines have chosen some very restrictive dimensions for seats in order to maximize profit by comfortably accommodating only average-sized and smaller people does not mean the odd fat or disabled person who needs more room is a substantial contributor to so-called lost revenue. Shame on anyone who presumes to judge and demand doctor’s notes. If it’s so easy to change your body, why don’t you just lose a few inches so you can better accommodate those around you? Then go lobby the airlines for a discount due to your svelte figure and see how far you get. And while you’re at it, ask for a surcharge for taller people whose knees bump the back of your seat. I have flown for many years and suspect there are on average perhaps one or two obese passengers on any given Canadian flight (if that). Two larger economy seats installed in place of one three seat section would probably allow nearly everyone to be accommodated just fine. It is hideously uncomfortable and embarrassing to try and wedge oneself into a too-small seat. Nobody wants to sit on someone else’s seat, so just give everyone a place they fit and viva la difference!

]]> By: Jason http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-19313 Jason Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:16:44 +0000 http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-19313 By making the airlines universally responsible for providing "passengers of size" with the room they require, we all benefit. No longer will there be the temptation for the airlines to force POS into single seats next to non-POS. I yearn for the day when the US implements this policy. As long as the extra seat is reserved ahead of time so other passengers are not bumped from their reserved seat, I encourage this. By making the airlines universally responsible for providing “passengers of size” with the room they require, we all benefit. No longer will there be the temptation for the airlines to force POS into single seats next to non-POS. I yearn for the day when the US implements this policy. As long as the extra seat is reserved ahead of time so other passengers are not bumped from their reserved seat, I encourage this.

]]> By: Brian http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-19271 Brian Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:28:30 +0000 http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-19271 Lots of good comments, nzm and jk in particular. I'm fine with forking over 77 cents extra (Canadian, no less. Oh wait, they're almost the same now) so that every sized person only has to pay for one seat. But I don't want to fork over any of my 17 inches! Lots of good comments, nzm and jk in particular. I’m fine with forking over 77 cents extra (Canadian, no less. Oh wait, they’re almost the same now) so that every sized person only has to pay for one seat. But I don’t want to fork over any of my 17 inches!

]]> By: From the Mind of J http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-19249 From the Mind of J Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:06:40 +0000 http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-19249 I spy some good ideas. Especially the part about the cause of the disability. If obesity was incurred by result of irresponsible eating, and/or laziness, and other disabilities were caused by foolish behavior such as anything Darwin Award-worthy, then no extra concessions should be made. I spy some good ideas. Especially the part about the cause of the disability. If obesity was incurred by result of irresponsible eating, and/or laziness, and other disabilities were caused by foolish behavior such as anything Darwin Award-worthy, then no extra concessions should be made.

]]> By: mitch http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-19248 mitch Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:41:50 +0000 http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-19248 More importantly, is height an affliction or disablity too? I can certainly not control this and at 6'3" i never can get enough legroom. More importantly, is height an affliction or disablity too? I can certainly not control this and at 6′3″ i never can get enough legroom.

]]> By: JK http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-19247 JK Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:04:36 +0000 http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2008/01/13/canada-prohibits-airlines-from-charging-overweight-passengers-for-an-extra-seat/#comment-19247 personally i think only people who have a doctor's note to prove that their obesity in a medical condition can be subject to "one person one fare" rule, since their obesity is mostly out of their control. for those couch potatoes who just don't take care of themselves and expect everyone else to suffer from their own lifestyles, they should be subject to "one seat one fare" instead. personally i think only people who have a doctor’s note to prove that their obesity in a medical condition can be subject to “one person one fare” rule, since their obesity is mostly out of their control.

for those couch potatoes who just don’t take care of themselves and expect everyone else to suffer from their own lifestyles, they should be subject to “one seat one fare” instead.

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