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	<title>Comments on: Upgrades and Downgrades &#8212; August 29, 2007 &#8212; Lineups, fees, fab pilots, and the death of paper tickets</title>
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		<title>By: Short hops &#8212; September 20, 2007 &#8212; Southwest&#8217;s revised seating policy, Virgin&#8217;s expanding premium cabin, international booking mysteries solved, and US Airways&#8217; new upgrade policy &#187; Upgrade: Travel Better</title>
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		<dc:creator>Short hops &#8212; September 20, 2007 &#8212; Southwest&#8217;s revised seating policy, Virgin&#8217;s expanding premium cabin, international booking mysteries solved, and US Airways&#8217; new upgrade policy &#187; Upgrade: Travel Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new seating plan The experiments are over, and the San Antonio model has won out. Starting in November, the new system will be nationwide. Each boarding pass will have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Leighsah</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/08/29/upgrades-and-downgrades-august-29-2007-lineups-fees-fab-pilots-and-the-death-of-paper-tickets/#comment-16157</link>
		<dc:creator>Leighsah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE Southwest for their A/B/C system. I make certain the second I am within the 24-hour window, I reserve my A pass. Then I make very certain I am there early enough to make a b-line for the emergency row. That way I am assured no little beasties will be seated next to me. Gotta love that under 15 rule.

Now for the idiot parent who can&#039;t control their beastie and it kicks my seat, pulls my hair, screeches, throws food or other items or does something else incredibly annoying, I have have no problem embarrassing the parent until they figure out how to control their kid. I have also been know to make formal complaints to flight attendants when the situation has been completely out of control. Someday an airline is going to make a child-free section in the plane and for that I will be eternally grateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE Southwest for their A/B/C system. I make certain the second I am within the 24-hour window, I reserve my A pass. Then I make very certain I am there early enough to make a b-line for the emergency row. That way I am assured no little beasties will be seated next to me. Gotta love that under 15 rule.</p>
<p>Now for the idiot parent who can&#8217;t control their beastie and it kicks my seat, pulls my hair, screeches, throws food or other items or does something else incredibly annoying, I have have no problem embarrassing the parent until they figure out how to control their kid. I have also been know to make formal complaints to flight attendants when the situation has been completely out of control. Someday an airline is going to make a child-free section in the plane and for that I will be eternally grateful.</p>
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		<title>By: The Global Traveller</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/08/29/upgrades-and-downgrades-august-29-2007-lineups-fees-fab-pilots-and-the-death-of-paper-tickets/#comment-16150</link>
		<dc:creator>The Global Traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sceptical that paper tickets will be completely gone by mid next year.

I recently got a paper ticket that was &lt;i&gt;hand-written&lt;/i&gt; - issued by a major airline at a major hub.  Not only was it a paper ticket for a common fare type, unable to be e-ticketed due to computer restrictions, but apparently the ticket also couldn&#039;t be printed.

I can imagine the logistics for ensuring e-ticketing works even on complex tickets at remote, third world locations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sceptical that paper tickets will be completely gone by mid next year.</p>
<p>I recently got a paper ticket that was <i>hand-written</i> &#8211; issued by a major airline at a major hub.  Not only was it a paper ticket for a common fare type, unable to be e-ticketed due to computer restrictions, but apparently the ticket also couldn&#8217;t be printed.</p>
<p>I can imagine the logistics for ensuring e-ticketing works even on complex tickets at remote, third world locations.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/08/29/upgrades-and-downgrades-august-29-2007-lineups-fees-fab-pilots-and-the-death-of-paper-tickets/#comment-16127</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for finding that.  The Dallas Morning News article you cite has some more &quot;color&quot; on this (and has the same photo):
&lt;blockquote&gt;In the San Antonio test, Group A includes 60 passengers who line up in groups of five just before boarding. Group B customers don&#039;t line up until the first group is aboard.

The test will include various modifications to the gate area to see if a divider is needed and which signs are easiest to read. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Also, with regard to your use of the automated check-in systems: There&#039;s nothing illegitimate about them.  It&#039;s your reservation.  Manage it however you see fit.

For more details on these services that guarantee you a spot in the A-group, sometimes even for FREE, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/06/07/getting-the-best-seats-on-southwest-just-got-harder/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see here&lt;/a&gt;.

Now let&#039;s see those sites fight it out to see who can guarantee group A, spots 1 through 5!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for finding that.  The Dallas Morning News article you cite has some more &#8220;color&#8221; on this (and has the same photo):</p>
<blockquote><p>In the San Antonio test, Group A includes 60 passengers who line up in groups of five just before boarding. Group B customers don&#8217;t line up until the first group is aboard.</p>
<p>The test will include various modifications to the gate area to see if a divider is needed and which signs are easiest to read. </p></blockquote>
<p>Also, with regard to your use of the automated check-in systems: There&#8217;s nothing illegitimate about them.  It&#8217;s your reservation.  Manage it however you see fit.</p>
<p>For more details on these services that guarantee you a spot in the A-group, sometimes even for FREE, <a href="http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/06/07/getting-the-best-seats-on-southwest-just-got-harder/" rel="nofollow" class="liinternal">see here</a>.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s see those sites fight it out to see who can guarantee group A, spots 1 through 5!</p>
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		<title>By: Flew Southwest Once</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/08/29/upgrades-and-downgrades-august-29-2007-lineups-fees-fab-pilots-and-the-death-of-paper-tickets/#comment-16124</link>
		<dc:creator>Flew Southwest Once</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some searching found two articles that detail what they are calling &#039;enhanced boarding&#039; procedure. One is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogsouthwest.com/2007/08/23/enhanced-boarding/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over at the Southwest Blog&lt;/a&gt; the other &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-southwest_08bus.ART.State.Edition1.35a99b0.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an article by the Dallas Morning News.&lt;/a&gt;

Looks like they are keeping the A-B-C groups but also pinning a spot number inside the group&#039;s pecking order in an effort to keep the crowds from dashing like mad to the front of the queue once the first brave soul stakes their claim to the No. 1 spot an hour and a half before boarding begins.

I can see this helping not only the crowds but also those crafty people that doctor their B/C passes to A-status with a sleight of hand and the Southwest online check-in. Having several people showing up to the gate with the same A1 printed on their ticket could raise a flag or two. Full Disclosure: I did use an automated boarding pass retrieval service to (somewhat) legitimately nab an A-pass on my pair of Southwest flights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some searching found two articles that detail what they are calling &#8216;enhanced boarding&#8217; procedure. One is <a href="http://www.blogsouthwest.com/2007/08/23/enhanced-boarding/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">over at the Southwest Blog</a> the other <a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-southwest_08bus.ART.State.Edition1.35a99b0.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">an article by the Dallas Morning News.</a></p>
<p>Looks like they are keeping the A-B-C groups but also pinning a spot number inside the group&#8217;s pecking order in an effort to keep the crowds from dashing like mad to the front of the queue once the first brave soul stakes their claim to the No. 1 spot an hour and a half before boarding begins.</p>
<p>I can see this helping not only the crowds but also those crafty people that doctor their B/C passes to A-status with a sleight of hand and the Southwest online check-in. Having several people showing up to the gate with the same A1 printed on their ticket could raise a flag or two. Full Disclosure: I did use an automated boarding pass retrieval service to (somewhat) legitimately nab an A-pass on my pair of Southwest flights.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/08/29/upgrades-and-downgrades-august-29-2007-lineups-fees-fab-pilots-and-the-death-of-paper-tickets/#comment-16114</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I recall correctly, the old way was for passengers to get their plastic boarding cards when they &lt;em&gt;arrived at the gate&lt;/em&gt;, and a range of numbers (20 or 30 at a time?) would board together, effectively creating the A/B/C zones by another name.  I don&#039;t recall the precise mechanics of the lineup procedure.  (Corrections, anyone?)

Now, with the numbers are assigned at check-in, it&#039;ll be all the more important to scramble online 24 hours before your flight.  

FYI, Southwest only abandoned the plastic card system in the summer of 2002.  It seems like ages ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I recall correctly, the old way was for passengers to get their plastic boarding cards when they <em>arrived at the gate</em>, and a range of numbers (20 or 30 at a time?) would board together, effectively creating the A/B/C zones by another name.  I don&#8217;t recall the precise mechanics of the lineup procedure.  (Corrections, anyone?)</p>
<p>Now, with the numbers are assigned at check-in, it&#8217;ll be all the more important to scramble online 24 hours before your flight.  </p>
<p>FYI, Southwest only abandoned the plastic card system in the summer of 2002.  It seems like ages ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Flew Southwest Once</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flew Southwest Once</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this a return back to the way Southwest used to board planes pre-9/11 and before online check-in? Show up at the ticket counter and get your plastic boarding card with a number stamped on it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this a return back to the way Southwest used to board planes pre-9/11 and before online check-in? Show up at the ticket counter and get your plastic boarding card with a number stamped on it?</p>
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