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	<title>Comments on: Ughh: More 757s going trans-Atlantic</title>
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		<title>By: erick</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/01/07/ughh-more-757s-going-trans-atlantic/#comment-74369</link>
		<dc:creator>erick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never crossed in a narrow body, but have flown coach in a 747, 767, 777 and L-1011 - pretty much cramped seating in all.  Probably no real difference in a 757 - less bathrooms, but less people as well.  From a retro perspective, I think it&#039;s sort of cool - it&#039;s basically the same size as a 707 (minus the accoutrements of the era - larger / less seats, people dressed up, drinking cocktails and smoking - and stewardesses with beehives).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never crossed in a narrow body, but have flown coach in a 747, 767, 777 and L-1011 &#8211; pretty much cramped seating in all.  Probably no real difference in a 757 &#8211; less bathrooms, but less people as well.  From a retro perspective, I think it&#8217;s sort of cool &#8211; it&#8217;s basically the same size as a 707 (minus the accoutrements of the era &#8211; larger / less seats, people dressed up, drinking cocktails and smoking &#8211; and stewardesses with beehives).</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/01/07/ughh-more-757s-going-trans-atlantic/#comment-68200</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just flew Continental round-trip from Newark to Lisbon -- 757s both ways.  I was honestly confused when I first saw the plane -- I thought I was at the wrong gate.  I had never taken a narrow body plane transatlantic before.  I had coach window seats both ways and it was basically fine (I&#039;m only 5&#039;9&quot;), but I wouldn&#039;t want to do this on a regular basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just flew Continental round-trip from Newark to Lisbon &#8212; 757s both ways.  I was honestly confused when I first saw the plane &#8212; I thought I was at the wrong gate.  I had never taken a narrow body plane transatlantic before.  I had coach window seats both ways and it was basically fine (I&#8217;m only 5&#8217;9&#8243;), but I wouldn&#8217;t want to do this on a regular basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Garry</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/01/07/ughh-more-757s-going-trans-atlantic/#comment-26635</link>
		<dc:creator>Garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actualy, I&#039;ve found my link doesn&#039;t work. If you go to www.netflights.com and search your destination to los Angeles on the 26th of september until the 7th of october and click on the US Airways flight (Theremay be more than one) you will find there is an A321 on a transatlantic rout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actualy, I&#8217;ve found my link doesn&#8217;t work. If you go to <a href="http://www.netflights.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">http://www.netflights.com</a> and search your destination to los Angeles on the 26th of september until the 7th of october and click on the US Airways flight (Theremay be more than one) you will find there is an A321 on a transatlantic rout.</p>
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		<title>By: Garry</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/01/07/ughh-more-757s-going-trans-atlantic/#comment-26634</link>
		<dc:creator>Garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could prove this to you, but I can&#039;t remeber the dates or even the exact airports. I got this info from netflights.com, though maybe this was a mistake on the site. I don&#039;t think an MD88 is a likely aircraft to cross the atlantic, I don&#039;t have any other info besides netflights and I can&#039;t find the pages. Sorry. Things like this alway happen to me, I find some information and publish it somewhere, and then I can&#039;t find it again. However, I do have this evidence from Netflights showing a US airways A321 flying from Los Angeles to Paris with one stop, visit this link: http://www.netflights.com/flights/availability.asp. On the return jurney the &#039;Aircraft&#039; is 321 (Airbus A321). This may be a mistake but was my sorce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could prove this to you, but I can&#8217;t remeber the dates or even the exact airports. I got this info from netflights.com, though maybe this was a mistake on the site. I don&#8217;t think an MD88 is a likely aircraft to cross the atlantic, I don&#8217;t have any other info besides netflights and I can&#8217;t find the pages. Sorry. Things like this alway happen to me, I find some information and publish it somewhere, and then I can&#8217;t find it again. However, I do have this evidence from Netflights showing a US airways A321 flying from Los Angeles to Paris with one stop, visit this link: <a href="http://www.netflights.com/flights/availability.asp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">http://www.netflights.com/flights/availability.asp</a>. On the return jurney the &#8216;Aircraft&#8217; is 321 (Airbus A321). This may be a mistake but was my sorce.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/01/07/ughh-more-757s-going-trans-atlantic/#comment-26623</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garry, please post dates and flight numbers if you want to prove your assertion.  There is no record of A319, A321, or MD88 flights across the Atlantic on the UA, US, or DL timetables.  And there&#039;s no evidence of a Delta flight from Atlanta to Edinburgh via Iceland, period.

I am happy to be proven wrong, if you can provide evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garry, please post dates and flight numbers if you want to prove your assertion.  There is no record of A319, A321, or MD88 flights across the Atlantic on the UA, US, or DL timetables.  And there&#8217;s no evidence of a Delta flight from Atlanta to Edinburgh via Iceland, period.</p>
<p>I am happy to be proven wrong, if you can provide evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Garry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES THEY DO!!! I found this on netflights. I don&#039;t know the dates but there is definately a transatlantic flight performed by a A319, AND AN A321, with US airways. The MD88 DOES SO PERFORM A TRANSATLANTIC ROUT FROM ATLANTA TO EDINBURGH with a stop in Iceland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES THEY DO!!! I found this on netflights. I don&#8217;t know the dates but there is definately a transatlantic flight performed by a A319, AND AN A321, with US airways. The MD88 DOES SO PERFORM A TRANSATLANTIC ROUT FROM ATLANTA TO EDINBURGH with a stop in Iceland.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to fact-check this:

United Airlines does NOT operate an Airbus A319 on the London-Chicago route.  There &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; a Lufthansa-coded all-business class flight operated by Privatair on an A319 that flew ORD-DUS, but that is no longer operating.  You can see current routes that are subcontracted to Privatair &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.privatair.com/cda/privatair/display/main/privatair_content.jsp?zn=privatair&amp;cp=1-2-7-30_4000_0__&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  United is currently operating three flights a day from ORD to LHR, all with 767-300s.

And Delta&#039;s on-again off-again seasonal nonstop service on the Atlanta-Edinburgh route is on a Boeing 757, not an MD-88.  The current one-stop service runs Atlanta to New York JFK on an MD-88, connecting to Edinburgh on a 757.

All that said, I&#039;m glad you enjoyed your flight on the 757 across the Atlantic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to fact-check this:</p>
<p>United Airlines does NOT operate an Airbus A319 on the London-Chicago route.  There <em>was</em> a Lufthansa-coded all-business class flight operated by Privatair on an A319 that flew ORD-DUS, but that is no longer operating.  You can see current routes that are subcontracted to Privatair <a href="http://www.privatair.com/cda/privatair/display/main/privatair_content.jsp?zn=privatair&amp;cp=1-2-7-30_4000_0__" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">here</a>.  United is currently operating three flights a day from ORD to LHR, all with 767-300s.</p>
<p>And Delta&#8217;s on-again off-again seasonal nonstop service on the Atlanta-Edinburgh route is on a Boeing 757, not an MD-88.  The current one-stop service runs Atlanta to New York JFK on an MD-88, connecting to Edinburgh on a 757.</p>
<p>All that said, I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed your flight on the 757 across the Atlantic!</p>
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		<title>By: Garry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>United Airlines Operate the Airbus A319 from London to Chicago. I&#039;d rather go on a 757 any day. And next year, Delta AirLines will be operating the MD-88 on a transatlantic flight from Atlanta to Edinburgh. Anyway, I&#039;ve had a transatlantic crossing on a Delta 757. This aircraft was equiped with winglets, as well as new touch-screen moniters in the seats. So I have no problem with a long flight on a 757. If you ask me, I&#039;d rather spend a year in a 757 rather than a few hours in an A320!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>United Airlines Operate the Airbus A319 from London to Chicago. I&#8217;d rather go on a 757 any day. And next year, Delta AirLines will be operating the MD-88 on a transatlantic flight from Atlanta to Edinburgh. Anyway, I&#8217;ve had a transatlantic crossing on a Delta 757. This aircraft was equiped with winglets, as well as new touch-screen moniters in the seats. So I have no problem with a long flight on a 757. If you ask me, I&#8217;d rather spend a year in a 757 rather than a few hours in an A320!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader mail: Why Boeing 757s are sub-par for trans-Atlantic travel &#187; Upgrade: Travel Better</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2007/01/07/ughh-more-757s-going-trans-atlantic/#comment-18258</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader mail: Why Boeing 757s are sub-par for trans-Atlantic travel &#187; Upgrade: Travel Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] EF dips into the blog archives and writes: I disagree with your hatred of the Boeing 757 for international flights. It&#8217;s no different than flying from New York to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] EF dips into the blog archives and writes: I disagree with your hatred of the Boeing 757 for international flights. It&#8217;s no different than flying from New York to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 04:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, a 757 takes longer to load when full than a widebody.  Think about this:  a 757 has 1 aisle to service 6 seats across the plane.  A 767 in the old 3-3-3 configuration had 2 aisles to serve 9 seats across--roughly 4-5 seats per aisle.  The 777 is similarly efficient for the loading and unloading of pax. 

I fly overseas quite often (currently based in Chicago) but have until now avoided the dreaded trans-atlantic 757.  Unfortunately, that will change next week when I have no choice but to take the US Airways PHL-DUB segment on a 757.  It&#039;s not the worst situation, since the flight is barely 6 hours, but I still expect a certain level of service on trans-Atlantic and trans-Pacific flights that I doubt I will receive in this case.

Unfortunately, the only nonstop ORD-DUB service is offered by Aer Lingus and was twice as expensive as US Airways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, a 757 takes longer to load when full than a widebody.  Think about this:  a 757 has 1 aisle to service 6 seats across the plane.  A 767 in the old 3-3-3 configuration had 2 aisles to serve 9 seats across&#8211;roughly 4-5 seats per aisle.  The 777 is similarly efficient for the loading and unloading of pax. </p>
<p>I fly overseas quite often (currently based in Chicago) but have until now avoided the dreaded trans-atlantic 757.  Unfortunately, that will change next week when I have no choice but to take the US Airways PHL-DUB segment on a 757.  It&#8217;s not the worst situation, since the flight is barely 6 hours, but I still expect a certain level of service on trans-Atlantic and trans-Pacific flights that I doubt I will receive in this case.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the only nonstop ORD-DUB service is offered by Aer Lingus and was twice as expensive as US Airways.</p>
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