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		<title>By: take dance lessons</title>
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		<dc:creator>take dance lessons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m staying at a hotel that uses superclick.  It is annoying to say the least.

I&#039;ve had one real popup ad, and an another annoying popup that controls the access.  It pops up every five minutes, but at least does not contain an ad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m staying at a hotel that uses superclick.  It is annoying to say the least.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had one real popup ad, and an another annoying popup that controls the access.  It pops up every five minutes, but at least does not contain an ad.</p>
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		<title>By: weather pattern &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s it all about, Wi-Fi?</title>
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		<dc:creator>weather pattern &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s it all about, Wi-Fi?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 06:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They also do their business and you pay for being nicely served!)))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also do their business and you pay for being nicely served!)))</p>
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		<title>By: Neale H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neale H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Internet access should be free!  I am no expert, but how much is it really costing these hotels to provide it?  Does it cost any more than the cost of providing towels, soap, toilet paper, or breakfast?

Having recently stayed at the Holiday Inn Vienna and paid the not inexpensive room charge of Eur137 per night, I was asked to pay Eur10 for just one hour, or Eur4 for 10 minutes access!!

Surely it is time that these charges were included in the cost of the room, in the same way that breakfast is normally included?

By contrast the Scandic hotels are excellent, not just because of the breakfasts, but they offer free wireless internet access.  I did have a little trouble with the connection at the Scandic in Vilnius (Lithuania) recently which was terribly slow - an American guest was complaining bitterly about it at reception - but hey, we are talking about Lithuania, not the USA, and at least it was free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internet access should be free!  I am no expert, but how much is it really costing these hotels to provide it?  Does it cost any more than the cost of providing towels, soap, toilet paper, or breakfast?</p>
<p>Having recently stayed at the Holiday Inn Vienna and paid the not inexpensive room charge of Eur137 per night, I was asked to pay Eur10 for just one hour, or Eur4 for 10 minutes access!!</p>
<p>Surely it is time that these charges were included in the cost of the room, in the same way that breakfast is normally included?</p>
<p>By contrast the Scandic hotels are excellent, not just because of the breakfasts, but they offer free wireless internet access.  I did have a little trouble with the connection at the Scandic in Vilnius (Lithuania) recently which was terribly slow &#8211; an American guest was complaining bitterly about it at reception &#8211; but hey, we are talking about Lithuania, not the USA, and at least it was free.</p>
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		<title>By: Better Living Through Miles</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/11/17/if-hotels-charge-for-wifi-you-shouldnt-be-subjected-to-advertising/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Better Living Through Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An update on this issue is up on &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.holtz.com/index.php/roadweary/marriott_update_theyre_listening/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shel&#039;s blog&lt;/a&gt;.  Marriott&#039;s John Wolf wrote this response:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Marriottâ€™s relationship with the Internet service provider Superclick includes an agreement to exclude all popups on our high-speed service.  However, Superclick explained to us that whenever upgrades are made to the system, pop ups are automatically activated and need to be manually turned off.  Apparently, we got upgraded and were unaware of it until you notified our front desk.  At that time, we notified Superclick and the pop ups were immediately turned off.  We are talking with Superclick to ensure that they alert us about all future upgrades.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That said, I agree with the anonymous commenter above regarding standards for chain hotels.  Inconsistency (resulting from franchising, or for any other reason) may not have been the cause of this specific internet issue, but it&#039;s a problem across the industry, from the customer&#039;s point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An update on this issue is up on <a href="http://blog.holtz.com/index.php/roadweary/marriott_update_theyre_listening/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">Shel&#8217;s blog</a>.  Marriott&#8217;s John Wolf wrote this response:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Marriottâ€™s relationship with the Internet service provider Superclick includes an agreement to exclude all popups on our high-speed service.  However, Superclick explained to us that whenever upgrades are made to the system, pop ups are automatically activated and need to be manually turned off.  Apparently, we got upgraded and were unaware of it until you notified our front desk.  At that time, we notified Superclick and the pop ups were immediately turned off.  We are talking with Superclick to ensure that they alert us about all future upgrades.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>That said, I agree with the anonymous commenter above regarding standards for chain hotels.  Inconsistency (resulting from franchising, or for any other reason) may not have been the cause of this specific internet issue, but it&#8217;s a problem across the industry, from the customer&#8217;s point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is unacceptable.  I mean, really, putting ads for online poker on your screen when you&#039;re paying $25 a day to use the hotel&#039;s monopoly wi-fi provider for a presentation to clients??  In a room that you paid for?  Unacceptable!

This is what hotel franchising with lousy oversight by the mothership gives you.  Renaissance (or Marriott, or all of the hotel chains really) need to set better standards.  If they even bother to think this stuff through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is unacceptable.  I mean, really, putting ads for online poker on your screen when you&#8217;re paying $25 a day to use the hotel&#8217;s monopoly wi-fi provider for a presentation to clients??  In a room that you paid for?  Unacceptable!</p>
<p>This is what hotel franchising with lousy oversight by the mothership gives you.  Renaissance (or Marriott, or all of the hotel chains really) need to set better standards.  If they even bother to think this stuff through.</p>
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		<title>By: rich (richmanwisco)</title>
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		<dc:creator>rich (richmanwisco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hotels using internet access as a profit center always turn me off.  they claim to cater to me (a businessman), yet they charge for the things i need to do business with.  and they want me to be happy about it?  not a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hotels using internet access as a profit center always turn me off.  they claim to cater to me (a businessman), yet they charge for the things i need to do business with.  and they want me to be happy about it?  not a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Should hotels charge for wi-fi?  If yes, can they still put ads on your PC?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Should hotels charge for wi-fi ? If so, then they shouldn&#039;t be putting pop-up banners on your screen.  Point, counterpoint, and a worst-case scenario....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Should hotels charge for wi-fi?  If yes, can they still put ads on your PC?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Should hotels charge for wi-fi ? If so, then they shouldn&#8217;t be putting pop-up banners on your screen.  Point, counterpoint, and a worst-case scenario&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Better Living Through Miles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Better Living Through Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, it&#039;s NOT spyware, though.  In his post, he writes:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;I assumed I had picked up some adware. Since the laptop is new, I havenâ€™t had a chance to install spyware/adware software, so I paid for AdAware Pro and ran it. The ads kept showing up.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, it&#8217;s NOT spyware, though.  In his post, he writes:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I assumed I had picked up some adware. Since the laptop is new, I havenâ€™t had a chance to install spyware/adware software, so I paid for AdAware Pro and ran it. The ads kept showing up.</em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: B.W. McAdams</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.W. McAdams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to be contradictory, but it sounds more likely he got infected with spyware.

Unless he physically installed software on his machine, ads aren&#039;t likely to &quot;Force&quot; their way in during a presentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be contradictory, but it sounds more likely he got infected with spyware.</p>
<p>Unless he physically installed software on his machine, ads aren&#8217;t likely to &#8220;Force&#8221; their way in during a presentation.</p>
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