Comments on: Ryanair to fly to U.S.? Discounter attempts takeover of AerLingus http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/10/05/ryanair-to-fly-to-us-discounter-attempts-takeover-of-aerlingus/ Living the first class life -- at coach prices Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:55:54 -0700 hourly 1 By: Ryanair announces plans for £8 trans-Atlantic flights | Upgrade: Travel Better http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/10/05/ryanair-to-fly-to-us-discounter-attempts-takeover-of-aerlingus/#comment-26865 Ryanair announces plans for £8 trans-Atlantic flights | Upgrade: Travel Better Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:10:06 +0000 http://upgradetravelbetter.com/?p=360#comment-26865 [...] - Disturbing Ryanair safety/training video exposé - Ryanair to fly to U.S.? Discounter attempts takeover of AerLingus - Ryanair’s trifecta of customer alienation (image) Categorized in: Ryanair [...] [...] – Disturbing Ryanair safety/training video exposé – Ryanair to fly to U.S.? Discounter attempts takeover of AerLingus – Ryanair’s trifecta of customer alienation (image) Categorized in: Ryanair [...]

]]> By: S http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/10/05/ryanair-to-fly-to-us-discounter-attempts-takeover-of-aerlingus/#comment-21369 S Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:48:19 +0000 http://upgradetravelbetter.com/?p=360#comment-21369 A Ryanair (discounter type) Longhaul flight!? Who the hell could endure this? In Rome we had to wait 2 hours when the ryanair departure handlers at the exit gate didnt turn up. Eventually local staff stepped in and did what ryanair shouldve been there to do there. Then a big kafuffle before liftoff where there was NO control over people bringing on hand luggage to be seen at all? Now substitute such a situation where the flight is a longhaul. When you may have had no sleep at all on top of a longhaul coachride to the airport a wait in the airport including a random evacuation over a bomb-scare. All this happened on the departure. How would ya like them apples with 13+ hours ahead of you? I dont think anyone could endure this on top of paying for it. So I think ryanair or any flight discounter types should Never be allowed Longhaul business. They all should have to constantly pass unbreakable unavoidable and renewed standards of "passenger freindliness" They are getting making a living on us at the end of the day. Why not force such carriers to make those long haul apples palate-able? S A Ryanair (discounter type) Longhaul flight!?
Who the hell could endure this? In Rome we had to wait 2 hours when the ryanair departure handlers at the exit gate didnt turn up. Eventually local staff stepped in and did what ryanair shouldve been there to do there. Then a big kafuffle before liftoff where there was NO control over people bringing on hand luggage to be seen at all? Now substitute such a situation where the flight is a longhaul. When you may have had no sleep at all on top of a longhaul coachride to the airport a wait in the airport including a random evacuation over a bomb-scare. All this happened on the departure. How would ya like them apples with 13+ hours ahead of you?
I dont think anyone could endure this on top of paying for it.
So I think ryanair or any flight discounter types should Never be allowed Longhaul business. They all should have to constantly pass unbreakable unavoidable and renewed standards of “passenger freindliness” They are getting making a living on us at the end of the day. Why not force such carriers to make those long haul apples palate-able?

S

]]> By: Tom http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/10/05/ryanair-to-fly-to-us-discounter-attempts-takeover-of-aerlingus/#comment-18703 Tom Mon, 24 Dec 2007 22:09:29 +0000 http://upgradetravelbetter.com/?p=360#comment-18703 Mr O'Leary would setup another airline to do long haul Reason for this is that the dynamics of long haul are different from short haul In a nutshell, he gets (at least) another return trip out of his planes per working day compared with the competition. Naturally anything that makes a 20 minute turnaround difficult gets dropped (so no flights to CDG in Paris(!) - those 30 minute taxi to a gate won't work for him) And of course, he'll look for a suitable country to register the planes in... Mr O’Leary would setup another airline to do long haul

Reason for this is that the dynamics of long haul are different from short haul

In a nutshell, he gets (at least) another return trip out of his planes per working day compared with the competition. Naturally anything that makes a 20 minute turnaround difficult gets dropped (so no flights to CDG in Paris(!) – those 30 minute taxi to a gate won’t work for him)

And of course, he’ll look for a suitable country to register the planes in…

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]]> By: Better Living Through Miles http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/10/05/ryanair-to-fly-to-us-discounter-attempts-takeover-of-aerlingus/#comment-243 Better Living Through Miles Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:47:00 +0000 http://upgradetravelbetter.com/?p=360#comment-243 BoonDoggie and Anonymous: If Ryanair meets your needs, good for you. If it's not your cup of tea, that's great too. My primary worry at this point is the effect that Ryanair's entry into the US market would have on other carriers. Much like American Airlines decided to ditch pillows and experimented with selling soft drinks, I'm never in favor of making already stripped-down comforts even less comfortable. And some of these items are things you can't simply pay for, like a Coke. No windowshades, for God's sake! Southwest will feel like a Gulfstream IV in comparison. As for the flight attendant safety issues, and an investigation into how they are treated by the company, check out the video, as well as the correspondence between the airline and the investigative reporters, <a HREF="http://upgradetravel.blogspot.com/2006/04/disturbing-ryanair-safetytraining.html" rel="nofollow">here</A>. BoonDoggie and Anonymous:

If Ryanair meets your needs, good for you. If it’s not your cup of tea, that’s great too.

My primary worry at this point is the effect that Ryanair’s entry into the US market would have on other carriers. Much like American Airlines decided to ditch pillows and experimented with selling soft drinks, I’m never in favor of making already stripped-down comforts even less comfortable. And some of these items are things you can’t simply pay for, like a Coke. No windowshades, for God’s sake! Southwest will feel like a Gulfstream IV in comparison.

As for the flight attendant safety issues, and an investigation into how they are treated by the company, check out the video, as well as the correspondence between the airline and the investigative reporters, here.

]]> By: BoonDoggie http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/10/05/ryanair-to-fly-to-us-discounter-attempts-takeover-of-aerlingus/#comment-242 BoonDoggie Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:55:00 +0000 http://upgradetravelbetter.com/?p=360#comment-242 Anon - Yes, I want the CHOICE to pay $1,400 to QANTAS for 14" of legroom or $500 to Ryan for 3". I dunno about the flight attendent stuff, in 20 years of flying I've never had a FA do anything but hand me a bag of pretzels or a drink. And as for WalMart employees being wards of the state, well, that old canard that Krugman and his ilk continue to peddle has been debunked so many times it's tiresome. Go thou and google. -AC Anon -

Yes, I want the CHOICE to pay $1,400 to QANTAS for 14″ of legroom or $500 to Ryan for 3″.

I dunno about the flight attendent stuff, in 20 years of flying I’ve never had a FA do anything but hand me a bag of pretzels or a drink.

And as for WalMart employees being wards of the state, well, that old canard that Krugman and his ilk continue to peddle has been debunked so many times it’s tiresome. Go thou and google.

-AC

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/10/05/ryanair-to-fly-to-us-discounter-attempts-takeover-of-aerlingus/#comment-241 Anonymous Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:33:00 +0000 http://upgradetravelbetter.com/?p=360#comment-241 You mean you <B>want</B> 3 inches less legroom than the North American average? You <B>want</B> flight attendants whose safety training has been questioned in multiple incidents? Getting lower airfares isn't free. Like WalMart, whose underpaid employees are living off the taxpayer (esp. healthcare) these low prices have a cost beyond the price of the ticket. You mean you want 3 inches less legroom than the North American average?

You want flight attendants whose safety training has been questioned in multiple incidents?

Getting lower airfares isn’t free. Like WalMart, whose underpaid employees are living off the taxpayer (esp. healthcare) these low prices have a cost beyond the price of the ticket.

]]> By: BoonDoggie http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/10/05/ryanair-to-fly-to-us-discounter-attempts-takeover-of-aerlingus/#comment-240 BoonDoggie Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:54:00 +0000 http://upgradetravelbetter.com/?p=360#comment-240 WalMart of the sky - couldn't think of anything better. I loved EasyJet and Ryan when I lived in London - I could get to Ireland, Scotland, or Paris for under $50 return. I'm about to pay $1,400 to fly from Hawaii to Brisbane because there are only three airlines flying that route. Bring on the super center! WalMart of the sky – couldn’t think of anything better.

I loved EasyJet and Ryan when I lived in London – I could get to Ireland, Scotland, or Paris for under $50 return.

I’m about to pay $1,400 to fly from Hawaii to Brisbane because there are only three airlines flying that route.

Bring on the super center!

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