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	<title>Comments on: Door Wars: In search of a quiet hotel room</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/07/25/door-wars-in-search-of-a-quiet-hotel-room/#comment-68671</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 06:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expecting everyone to be courteous is not a solution. There will always be passive-aggressive people willing and eager to disturb others, whether by slamming a door or driving a boombox car.

To find a quiet hotel room, you need to essentially eliminate the hotels with interior hallways. The hallways magnify the noise from the slamming doors. Hotels/motels with outside entrances are much quieter.

The price of the hotel has nothing to do with the quietness and amount of sleep you will get. My favorite chain is Red Roof Inn (the older ones with outside room entrances). They are probably the most soundproof rooms of any chain I&#039;ve ever stayed at. The original (one story) Knights Inn locations are good too. Some of the Red Roof and Knights Inn locations have turned into America&#039;s Best Value locations. And even the Motel 6 is much quieter than your typical luxury hotel chain with interior hallways.

For a more upscale location, try the Staybridge Suites. Their one or two-bedroom suites have completely separate bedrooms with a door that closes, so you are insulated from outer door noise. Some have outside room entrances, some have interior hallways, but even those are usually quiet, depending on construction and layout.

Finally, if you want a quiet room, I would avoid the Country Inn &amp; Suites. Yes, they have separate bedrooms, but the sound insulation is so poor that noises from throughout the hotel pound right through into the bedrooms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expecting everyone to be courteous is not a solution. There will always be passive-aggressive people willing and eager to disturb others, whether by slamming a door or driving a boombox car.</p>
<p>To find a quiet hotel room, you need to essentially eliminate the hotels with interior hallways. The hallways magnify the noise from the slamming doors. Hotels/motels with outside entrances are much quieter.</p>
<p>The price of the hotel has nothing to do with the quietness and amount of sleep you will get. My favorite chain is Red Roof Inn (the older ones with outside room entrances). They are probably the most soundproof rooms of any chain I&#8217;ve ever stayed at. The original (one story) Knights Inn locations are good too. Some of the Red Roof and Knights Inn locations have turned into America&#8217;s Best Value locations. And even the Motel 6 is much quieter than your typical luxury hotel chain with interior hallways.</p>
<p>For a more upscale location, try the Staybridge Suites. Their one or two-bedroom suites have completely separate bedrooms with a door that closes, so you are insulated from outer door noise. Some have outside room entrances, some have interior hallways, but even those are usually quiet, depending on construction and layout.</p>
<p>Finally, if you want a quiet room, I would avoid the Country Inn &amp; Suites. Yes, they have separate bedrooms, but the sound insulation is so poor that noises from throughout the hotel pound right through into the bedrooms.</p>
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		<title>By: judy nagy</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/07/25/door-wars-in-search-of-a-quiet-hotel-room/#comment-67961</link>
		<dc:creator>judy nagy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIABILITY - Doors smashing shut did not used to be a problem.  My guess is that hotel&#039;s installed &quot;closers&quot; on the doors over the years because people were going out and not making sure their door was shut properly.  Somebody probably sued when a bad guy got in their room.  So we all suffer now with the noise pollution.  That&#039;s why I believe it&#039;s up to US, the guests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIABILITY &#8211; Doors smashing shut did not used to be a problem.  My guess is that hotel&#8217;s installed &#8220;closers&#8221; on the doors over the years because people were going out and not making sure their door was shut properly.  Somebody probably sued when a bad guy got in their room.  So we all suffer now with the noise pollution.  That&#8217;s why I believe it&#8217;s up to US, the guests.</p>
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		<title>By: judy nagy</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/07/25/door-wars-in-search-of-a-quiet-hotel-room/#comment-67960</link>
		<dc:creator>judy nagy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hotel door slammers:  easy to solve.  STOP letting the door slam shut.  Whoever is closing the door needs to not let it slam shut.  If we all were courteous we wouldn&#039;t have this problem.  I never let my door slam shut.  Many guests do, it&#039;s  like they&#039;re brain dead.  I assume they&#039;ve never been away from home before.  

The smashing shut of the doors is probably the worst problem in a hotel other than lack of hot water.  Sometimes I land in Europe early in the morning, check into a hotel, am ready for a nap about 11am but NO, housekeeping lets the doors smash shut.  These are HOTEL EMPLOYEES.  Obviously, hotel management does not care at all.

I know everyone will say this is not a solution, that people are too dumb, too uncaring, too rushed.  Nonsense, just post signs to make people aware, LOTS of signs, and if each of us gently speaks up when we  catch someone in the act, pretty soon people will become aware.  They don&#039;t slam doors on purpose, they&#039;re just dumb.  Posting signs in the elevators, on the doors, on the back of the doors .. all at eye level ... would cut the noise by 60%,  I&#039;ll bet.  When I am awakened by morons smashing doors shut, I put on my robe and hit the hall and tell people to stop.  Most of them just look at me sullenly, but it does help a great deal. and I couldn&#039;t care less what they think of me, I just want them to be more courrteous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hotel door slammers:  easy to solve.  STOP letting the door slam shut.  Whoever is closing the door needs to not let it slam shut.  If we all were courteous we wouldn&#8217;t have this problem.  I never let my door slam shut.  Many guests do, it&#8217;s  like they&#8217;re brain dead.  I assume they&#8217;ve never been away from home before.  </p>
<p>The smashing shut of the doors is probably the worst problem in a hotel other than lack of hot water.  Sometimes I land in Europe early in the morning, check into a hotel, am ready for a nap about 11am but NO, housekeeping lets the doors smash shut.  These are HOTEL EMPLOYEES.  Obviously, hotel management does not care at all.</p>
<p>I know everyone will say this is not a solution, that people are too dumb, too uncaring, too rushed.  Nonsense, just post signs to make people aware, LOTS of signs, and if each of us gently speaks up when we  catch someone in the act, pretty soon people will become aware.  They don&#8217;t slam doors on purpose, they&#8217;re just dumb.  Posting signs in the elevators, on the doors, on the back of the doors .. all at eye level &#8230; would cut the noise by 60%,  I&#8217;ll bet.  When I am awakened by morons smashing doors shut, I put on my robe and hit the hall and tell people to stop.  Most of them just look at me sullenly, but it does help a great deal. and I couldn&#8217;t care less what they think of me, I just want them to be more courrteous.</p>
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		<title>By: Short hops &#8212; August 23, 2006 &#8212; rewards edition &#124; Upgrade: Travel Better</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/07/25/door-wars-in-search-of-a-quiet-hotel-room/#comment-48041</link>
		<dc:creator>Short hops &#8212; August 23, 2006 &#8212; rewards edition &#124; Upgrade: Travel Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 04:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 23 Aug 2006   Short hops &#8212; August 23, 2006 &#8212; rewards editionPosted by: Mark Ashley    Coalition of conservative groups rewards porn-free hotels Anyone who&#8217;s ever worked behind the scenes at a hotel will tell you that the pay-per-view pornography is a profit center. Now a coalition of conservative groups in the U.S. is targeting hotel porn, charging that it violates a range of local obscenity laws, and trying to get the FBI involved. They&#8217;re also publishing a list of porn-free hotels. I&#8217;d rather see an investigation of obscenely-priced minibar items. Or how about fighting for quieter doors? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 23 Aug 2006   Short hops &#8212; August 23, 2006 &#8212; rewards editionPosted by: Mark Ashley    Coalition of conservative groups rewards porn-free hotels Anyone who&#8217;s ever worked behind the scenes at a hotel will tell you that the pay-per-view pornography is a profit center. Now a coalition of conservative groups in the U.S. is targeting hotel porn, charging that it violates a range of local obscenity laws, and trying to get the FBI involved. They&#8217;re also publishing a list of porn-free hotels. I&#8217;d rather see an investigation of obscenely-priced minibar items. Or how about fighting for quieter doors? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/07/25/door-wars-in-search-of-a-quiet-hotel-room/#comment-44950</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 03:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A note to be placed in every room.

A simpler and inexpensive measure would be for the hotel staff to at least place a courteous note in every room.
Affixed or taped to the door or on every key, it would remind each guest to &quot;Please Close the Door Very Gently as other guests may be sleeping, studying or simply resting. Thank you for being considerate.&quot;

It should be made a basic requirement for a hotel to operate.

Do you know of any law maker that could make it happen?

After the cigarette-free zones, it may be time now for a door-bang-free zone. 

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Please, come up with lots of creative ideas to stop this noise pollution that may be ruining many people in dire need of essential  peace and quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A note to be placed in every room.</p>
<p>A simpler and inexpensive measure would be for the hotel staff to at least place a courteous note in every room.<br />
Affixed or taped to the door or on every key, it would remind each guest to &#8220;Please Close the Door Very Gently as other guests may be sleeping, studying or simply resting. Thank you for being considerate.&#8221;</p>
<p>It should be made a basic requirement for a hotel to operate.</p>
<p>Do you know of any law maker that could make it happen?</p>
<p>After the cigarette-free zones, it may be time now for a door-bang-free zone. </p>
<p>-</p>
<p>Please, come up with lots of creative ideas to stop this noise pollution that may be ruining many people in dire need of essential  peace and quiet.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Not all ten year olds are hyperactive!

We are not all bad. Some are bad I must admit!

The Ten year old</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Not all ten year olds are hyperactive!</p>
<p>We are not all bad. Some are bad I must admit!</p>
<p>The Ten year old</p>
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		<title>By: gary b.</title>
		<link>http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/2006/07/25/door-wars-in-search-of-a-quiet-hotel-room/#comment-34894</link>
		<dc:creator>gary b.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stayed at the Hyatt in St. Louis and encountered the door slamming issue. It&#039;s a combination of poor design and bad manners. I asked to be moved from a family that had their kids running back and forth between rooms. they had jury-rigged the doors with the latch so the doors would not close all the way, but the let the door fly when closing. The Hyatt did send up security to check. But the only way to get the door to close quietly was to hold it until it goes into the latch, and even then, it was loud.

If I found a chain that offered quiet rooms and doors, I&#039;d stay there no matter what. Thanks for starting this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stayed at the Hyatt in St. Louis and encountered the door slamming issue. It&#8217;s a combination of poor design and bad manners. I asked to be moved from a family that had their kids running back and forth between rooms. they had jury-rigged the doors with the latch so the doors would not close all the way, but the let the door fly when closing. The Hyatt did send up security to check. But the only way to get the door to close quietly was to hold it until it goes into the latch, and even then, it was loud.</p>
<p>If I found a chain that offered quiet rooms and doors, I&#8217;d stay there no matter what. Thanks for starting this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: John J</title>
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		<dc:creator>John J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it comes down to manufacturers of doors and latches. Nobody gives a darn about the noise. All these hotels have the same basic noisy design. But hotel execs apparently don&#039;t care to order anything different. It&#039;s so obvious the doors are very noisy but NO ONE can change the problem, apparently. Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it comes down to manufacturers of doors and latches. Nobody gives a darn about the noise. All these hotels have the same basic noisy design. But hotel execs apparently don&#8217;t care to order anything different. It&#8217;s so obvious the doors are very noisy but NO ONE can change the problem, apparently. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Hey Ace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hey Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish SOMEONE could name a chain that takes pride in having quiet, insulated rooms with doors that block noise and don&#039;t crash shut. Only people who don&#039;t travel much or sleep like rocks could possibly tolerate the noise.

Let&#039;s name names:

So far, my worst is Spring Hill Suites, by Marriott. Been in three of them now, and each had paper-thin walls. And just because you&#039;re behind your door don&#039;t think you&#039;ve got privacy! Walking down the hallway I could hear someone&#039;s phone conversation SIX ROOMS DOWN THE HALLWAY from the room with the conversation! Baaaaaad.

If you find a quiet chain, I&#039;d love to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish SOMEONE could name a chain that takes pride in having quiet, insulated rooms with doors that block noise and don&#8217;t crash shut. Only people who don&#8217;t travel much or sleep like rocks could possibly tolerate the noise.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s name names:</p>
<p>So far, my worst is Spring Hill Suites, by Marriott. Been in three of them now, and each had paper-thin walls. And just because you&#8217;re behind your door don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ve got privacy! Walking down the hallway I could hear someone&#8217;s phone conversation SIX ROOMS DOWN THE HALLWAY from the room with the conversation! Baaaaaad.</p>
<p>If you find a quiet chain, I&#8217;d love to know.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget about price, friendliness of staff, junk buffet breakfast&#039;s, etc. if you can&#039;t sleep due to noise the whole deal stinks.  Those of us who travel quite a bit know peace and quiet is the top priority.  The management doesn&#039;t get it.  Hotels are about booking and not so much about loyal customers.  They don&#039;t hesitate to book the soccer/baseball team with wild kids and parents next to adults without kids who simply want a night&#039;s sleep.  Staying at a hotel on Friday and Saturday evening is a nightmare and the staff doesn&#039;t want to address noise.  You get the point, most hotel charge a fancy rate for a room in which you get to experience doors slamming all night and people raising hell without providing any policing of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget about price, friendliness of staff, junk buffet breakfast&#8217;s, etc. if you can&#8217;t sleep due to noise the whole deal stinks.  Those of us who travel quite a bit know peace and quiet is the top priority.  The management doesn&#8217;t get it.  Hotels are about booking and not so much about loyal customers.  They don&#8217;t hesitate to book the soccer/baseball team with wild kids and parents next to adults without kids who simply want a night&#8217;s sleep.  Staying at a hotel on Friday and Saturday evening is a nightmare and the staff doesn&#8217;t want to address noise.  You get the point, most hotel charge a fancy rate for a room in which you get to experience doors slamming all night and people raising hell without providing any policing of the problem.</p>
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